From 4e7f4d4f56dc91cdbaa844e2291894cd435d04dc Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Rufus Pollock Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 13:14:32 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] [excalidraw/3,notes/2][m]: 2 drawings from klimadao deep dive last week plus from pia mancini dialog plus embed in associated notes. --- dao/klimadao.finance.md | 20 + ...lima-dao-analysis-2022-04-07.excalidraw.md | 2671 +++++++++++ ...ima-dao-analysis-2022-04-07.excalidraw.svg | 5 + ...collective-dialog-2022-04-08.excalidraw.md | 3969 +++++++++++++++++ ...ollective-dialog-2022-04-08.excalidraw.svg | 5 + ...ree-rider-outline-2022-04-07.excalidraw.md | 2223 +++++++++ ...ee-rider-outline-2022-04-07.excalidraw.svg | 5 + notes/pia-mancini-open-collective-dialogue.md | 8 + 8 files changed, 8906 insertions(+) create mode 100644 excalidraw/klima-dao-analysis-2022-04-07.excalidraw.md create mode 100644 excalidraw/klima-dao-analysis-2022-04-07.excalidraw.svg create mode 100644 excalidraw/pia-mancini-open-collective-dialog-2022-04-08.excalidraw.md create mode 100644 excalidraw/pia-mancini-open-collective-dialog-2022-04-08.excalidraw.svg create mode 100644 excalidraw/public-goods-free-rider-outline-2022-04-07.excalidraw.md create mode 100644 excalidraw/public-goods-free-rider-outline-2022-04-07.excalidraw.svg create mode 100644 notes/pia-mancini-open-collective-dialogue.md diff --git a/dao/klimadao.finance.md b/dao/klimadao.finance.md index 23c6c38..58ce988 100644 --- a/dao/klimadao.finance.md +++ b/dao/klimadao.finance.md @@ -59,3 +59,23 @@ Any clearer? ## https://docs.klimadao.finance/klima-dao-ecosystem +# Notes + +![drawing-2022-04-07-20.37.42.excalidraw](../excalidraw/klima-dao-analysis-2022-04-07.excalidraw.svg) + +Understanding how it works ... + +https://docs.klimadao.finance/klima-dao-ecosystem + +* BCT = "Base Carbon Tonne" + > The BCT (Base Carbon Tonne) — KlimaDAO's reserve asset — is a carbon offset index token representing a basket of different tokenised carbon tonnes starting with `TCO2`. 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