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@@ -59,3 +59,23 @@ Any clearer?
## https://docs.klimadao.finance/klima-dao-ecosystem
+# Notes
+
+
+
+Understanding how it works ...
+
+https://docs.klimadao.finance/klima-dao-ecosystem
+
+* BCT = "Base Carbon Tonne"
+ > The BCT (Base Carbon Tonne) — KlimaDAO's reserve asset — is a carbon offset index token representing a basket of different tokenised carbon tonnes starting with `TCO2`. [https://docs.klimadao.finance/klima-dao-ecosystem]
+
+### What is the price of the BCT
+
+Since the BCT is what they hold in the treasury and provides the core "intrinsic value" it is important to understand what it's price is.
+
+
+* Klima DAO’s current capture cost is ~8 usd/tn (the price of BCT tokens) [https://hristovbz.medium.com/klima-dao-for-apes-degens-ogs-195af0b4cd0b - Nov 30 2021]
+* This seems low see e.g. this post from KlimaDAO itself https://klimadao.medium.com/carbon-markets-retail-offset-pricing-4eab0f6196c0 which includes this graphic
+
+ 
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+---
+
+excalidraw-plugin: parsed
+tags: [excalidraw]
+
+---
+==⚠ Switch to EXCALIDRAW VIEW in the MORE OPTIONS menu of this document. ⚠==
+
+
+# Text Elements
+1 USDC ^dFJSnLyn
+
+Convert 1 usd
+to 1 USDC
+ ^g5i1Qiyj
+
+Pay: $1 ^L3a8VoRW
+
+$1 ^lDsr0joP
+
+Exchange ^3OVcJcQ6
+
+1/p KlimaDAO Token
+(p = price klima) ^Bja8b47h
+
+Carbon Offset
+Certificates ^MPwCTrAZ
+
+1. Planting trees
+2. Carbon sequestration tech (?)
+3. Methane capture ^9gIL6oYD
+
+Exchange ^VtiFOaGj
+
+USDC ^WX4mP5lB
+
+$ ^f7uY90uW
+
+Climate offsets market
+works in $ and € etc ^u4BnKIh4
+
+Guarantee 1 klima token backed
+>= 1 tonne of carbon offsets ^8RNtnNHa
+
+$ ^lrnHkOFh
+
+USDC ^pAY5ISm7
+
+Klima token ^95d6KdV9
+
+$ ^8smh9vUn
+
+tonne of carbon offset ^Yj5z0gwx
+
+Klima are "bond like"
+
+Pays a coupon in klima which is
+a function of klima and usdc in
+treasury
+
+payout = f(klima, usdc) ^BzqzK3nX
+
+1 tonne ^9BhlhRgl
+
+Klima
+Treasury ^2JlwKfVd
+
+Klima
+Treasury ^EJ9SLw1K
+
+Defi Structure ^eR5KVQqE
+
+1. Bond
+2. Stake
+3. Sell ^viPfujrS
+
+Get: 1/p klima ^BQJksPYs
+
+Points system on steroids ...
+
+I buy carbon offsets ...
+ and i get this token for free ...
+ ^kG9TtEDt
+
+Klima ^dx1AGfKM
+
+Questions: there are significant exchange
+fees on each leg in and out ... => this has v high management fees
+
+Why not just buy climate offsets directly ... ^lY76GGQV
+
+Other stuff e.g. USDC ^fFWFgQVw
+
+Like a SPV for buying carbon offsets with $ ^6gVNjpNi
+
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+Steward owned company ^hA0lyTst
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+Trust is a nice model
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+---
+created: 2022-04-13
+date: 2022-04-08
+---
+
+# Dialogue with Pia Mancini on Open Collective
+
+
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